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Yeah, we got just that clock, about two minutes. 00:00:01
You know, I always want, I always want to play this in a console. 00:00:10
All right, welcome to the. 00:00:14
4th budget workshop for the City of Saint Mary's. 00:00:17
And uh. 00:00:22
Is. We'll start out with some of the changes that have been. 00:00:24
Made. 00:00:27
Presented. 00:00:30
To council this morning by e-mail. Hopefully had a chance and if not it. 00:00:32
Printed out copies of there in front of you. 00:00:36
I guess the. 00:00:40
Primary major change was the removal of the three and a half million dollars that. 00:00:42
Was. 00:00:50
Anticipated from a potential real estate transaction so since that. 00:00:52
And I'll reiterate again. 00:00:57
This building. 00:01:00
Even though I said that at last meeting it was reported otherwise, that's not what that was A. 00:01:02
About. 00:01:07
But umm. 00:01:08
We have removed that. 00:01:10
And the corresponding expenditure on capital improvement on the. 00:01:12
Future City Hall building as well so. 00:01:19
Umm, with that, basically that three and a half million off of the revenue side and three and a half million off of the 00:01:22
expenditure side. 00:01:26
And. 00:01:31
Believe that was really the only major change that was made that is correct. Now I was going to show it to you, but we're having a 00:01:33
little technical difficulties. We had a electrical. 00:01:37
Pick up this afternoon so. 00:01:42
OK. So I guess with that you know and obviously this. 00:01:44
We hope to try to workout any other. 00:01:48
Questions or concerns that council members have about the budget and you know, this is the time for us to do that and have these 00:01:52
discussions and hopefully have something that we can. 00:01:57
Agree on uh uh. 00:02:03
On Monday night at the next council meeting to approve this so that. 00:02:04
City finance staff can get on with coding the budget in SO. 00:02:09
This king, you got something you want to say? 00:02:13
Well, I'm pulling the mic. Yes, there you go. Yes, I do. 00:02:17
I have a question about the. I know we took three and a half million out of the revenue side and 3 1/2 out of the expenditure 00:02:24
side. 00:02:29
Which umm. 00:02:35
I'm not, I'm not sure why we are leaving the 2.5 in there at this point because what is our basis for that? I mean it kind of tips 00:02:38
our hand a little bit. 00:02:44
If we put things out, forbid. 00:02:50
And. 00:02:53
If we. 00:02:54
Just take it out of there. 00:02:55
Um, the draw from. 00:02:58
Fund equity would be a million. 00:03:01
6169. 00:03:03
And instead of 3.5 million until we actually have. 00:03:07
Revenue stream, I know we and. 00:03:12
If I'm not mistaken. 00:03:15
We have $1,000,000 reserved. 00:03:20
ARPA money, right? Yeah. 00:03:22
So it just to me it seems like a little bit cleaner way to reevaluate. 00:03:26
Taking it out. 00:03:34
And not having anything in there because we are going to amend the budget when once we, you know, take another look at the plans 00:03:35
and everything, we'll have a better idea of what it should be. 00:03:41
Was there? 00:03:49
Any anticipated? 00:03:51
Is there anything else anticipated above and beyond the? 00:03:53
What would be done under the bid construction? Bid that for work? 00:03:57
To be done there. 00:04:02
But it does leave 494,939 in that line item. 00:04:04
Depending on what Council's desire is with the. 00:04:13
The layout and how the architectural design is affected. 00:04:16
There may be some expense there, but I think the 400. 00:04:21
Would would cover. 00:04:24
But we could go ahead and do the roof, but if we wait on that too. 00:04:27
Well. 00:04:33
You know, I want the last thing I want to share is that I had a really good conversation Friday of last week with our. 00:04:36
Attorney Amanda. 00:04:45
Who was filling in Saccoli? Yes. 00:04:48
Umm, and she had seen the meeting and umm she had spoken with Mr. BlackBerry, who of course was there at the meeting and we talked 00:04:51
about all the different options. 00:04:58
And the safety Nets and so forth that we had through state code sections about extending. 00:05:05
You know, should we not be able to do that, but agreed fully that we. 00:05:13
What we want to do is have the budget done on time and I think we can do that. 00:05:18
For sure. 00:05:23
Umm, but? I asked him at the end of the conversation. 00:05:25
If you if your firm were to give us. 00:05:29
Some advice on this issue? What would it be? 00:05:32
And she said well. 00:05:36
What we think would be the easiest thing is to take both of those line items out, the revenue and the expenditure for the 00:05:38
building, sort out what you want to get done. 00:05:43
With the building. 00:05:48
And in the mean time, maybe you get closer to execution on the real estate. 00:05:50
And you can make an amendment to the budget that way. 00:05:56
You're not tipping anybody. 00:06:00
On when you do put it back out for proposal. 00:06:02
About what's in there. 00:06:06
So I think that's good advice. 00:06:08
Yeah, I mean. 00:06:13
It really doesn't. 00:06:14
Like I said. 00:06:16
It's semantics to me, and purely semantics because. 00:06:18
You know, it's our intention and desire to try to get into the building next year. We know it's going to cost money. 00:06:22
You know, I am OK either way. Like I say, it's just going back into general fund. 00:06:28
Which is where some of that money is already now and so. 00:06:33
You know, we, we reallocate and do a budget. I'm I'm OK with that if that's what. 00:06:38
If that's the discussion, so. 00:06:45
I agree with both of you. I want to get in the building as soon as possible and. 00:06:49
And I want to make sure it's done right but. 00:06:53
If that's the only. 00:06:56
If that's the only thing, that's. 00:06:58
Holding you up. 00:07:00
I don't see where that would be a problem because we can always amend it. 00:07:01
Later on because we're going to have to go out in the beach. 00:07:06
Yeah, I mean, I do believe it's the gonna. 00:07:10
End results could be the same thing either way, so. 00:07:12
I mean, yeah, it will be. 00:07:16
But I do suggest that within the next month. 00:07:20
Within the next calendar month. 00:07:24
That we actually we need to have a. 00:07:26
City Council. 00:07:29
Work session on City Hall so we can actually iron things out as a council as far as what our plans are going to be. We need to do 00:07:31
that sooner than later. 00:07:35
I agree. 00:07:38
One of the things, I think some of the things that are. 00:07:41
In contention or up for discussion now or things that. 00:07:44
Were decided upon. 00:07:48
By the previous Council or whatever, and. 00:07:49
Obviously we've got a new council now and. 00:07:53
But we're also building. 00:07:56
Building a building for the next. 00:07:58
4050 years probably, you know, so trying to be mindful of you know what. 00:08:00
What are you know, what are, what are the future needs, you know, without overbuilding and expending funds now? 00:08:06
That we don't, you know, need to spend for 20 years. I'm not asking. 00:08:13
To do that, but we certainly like say we need to. 00:08:16
Need to settle on. 00:08:19
You know what the scope of that work is, but. 00:08:20
If that's amenable to everybody on staff there that we just go ahead and. 00:08:23
Can we change just to make sure that we're on the same page of what we're doing? 00:08:27
Is we're not just. 00:08:33
Here. Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt. I think you've got what up was a fixed master. 00:08:35
OK, my understanding is. 00:08:41
You want to remove the 2.5 out of fund equity. 00:08:43
Correct. You also want to remove the 2.5. 00:08:48
Out of general governmental buildings, leaving the 494. 00:08:51
In governmental buildings. 00:08:57
OK. All right. 00:08:59
So good, Yeah, that'll reduce the draw and fund equity to 1,000,000. 00:09:01
6000. 00:09:06
So is that what I'm understanding? Is that correct? 00:09:09
I'm sorry, could you say that? I don't know. 00:09:13
What about the fund Equity 1.6 right? 00:09:17
1,000,000. 00:09:21
6169 dollars. 00:09:23
To make sure that everybody hears it on here. 00:09:27
Oh, sorry. 00:09:29
So that would. 00:09:31
Yeah. So that would take fund equity in $1,006,169. 00:09:33
And it would typing. 00:09:38
General governmental buildings to 494,939 dollars. 00:09:39
Yes. 00:09:46
Got that it? Good. That's it. 00:09:50
OK. 00:09:53
All right, is there? 00:09:54
Anything else? 00:09:56
Anything else is going to keep you from voting Yeah on Monday. 00:09:57
Let's hear it now, please. I'm all in. 00:10:01
In comparison, that's right. 00:10:06
Yeah, as long as we're all even here, we're on the same page, we can consent this Monday night, so. 00:10:09
So everybody pretty much figured. 00:10:16
We don't do that. 00:10:18
Yeah. Thank you. 00:10:20
OK. Anything else? 00:10:22
Public. 00:10:28
I mean, yeah, I'm talking about. 00:10:31
You talking about to me, this guy? Yeah. Yes, Sir. 00:10:36
You're saying I've Saints tonight? You did last time. Yes, I did, you know. Yes, Sir. And I was wrong by doing that. Everybody 00:10:41
else wronged by doing that. 00:10:45
Sir, Yes, Sir. 00:10:51
Any other? 00:10:55
Comments. 00:10:56
I mean, I don't know that we necessarily have a. 00:10:58
Grant an audience. But if you've got something you want to say that needs to be said, I think this is the time to do it so we can 00:11:02
get. 00:11:05
Is it where we need to be come Monday night? So if anybody wants to come up. 00:11:08
Otherwise, we'll all be happy Monday night. 00:11:13
All right. Amen. 00:11:16
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Event transcript
Yeah, we got just that clock, about two minutes. 00:00:01
You know, I always want, I always want to play this in a console. 00:00:10
All right, welcome to the. 00:00:14
4th budget workshop for the City of Saint Mary's. 00:00:17
And uh. 00:00:22
Is. We'll start out with some of the changes that have been. 00:00:24
Made. 00:00:27
Presented. 00:00:30
To council this morning by e-mail. Hopefully had a chance and if not it. 00:00:32
Printed out copies of there in front of you. 00:00:36
I guess the. 00:00:40
Primary major change was the removal of the three and a half million dollars that. 00:00:42
Was. 00:00:50
Anticipated from a potential real estate transaction so since that. 00:00:52
And I'll reiterate again. 00:00:57
This building. 00:01:00
Even though I said that at last meeting it was reported otherwise, that's not what that was A. 00:01:02
About. 00:01:07
But umm. 00:01:08
We have removed that. 00:01:10
And the corresponding expenditure on capital improvement on the. 00:01:12
Future City Hall building as well so. 00:01:19
Umm, with that, basically that three and a half million off of the revenue side and three and a half million off of the 00:01:22
expenditure side. 00:01:26
And. 00:01:31
Believe that was really the only major change that was made that is correct. Now I was going to show it to you, but we're having a 00:01:33
little technical difficulties. We had a electrical. 00:01:37
Pick up this afternoon so. 00:01:42
OK. So I guess with that you know and obviously this. 00:01:44
We hope to try to workout any other. 00:01:48
Questions or concerns that council members have about the budget and you know, this is the time for us to do that and have these 00:01:52
discussions and hopefully have something that we can. 00:01:57
Agree on uh uh. 00:02:03
On Monday night at the next council meeting to approve this so that. 00:02:04
City finance staff can get on with coding the budget in SO. 00:02:09
This king, you got something you want to say? 00:02:13
Well, I'm pulling the mic. Yes, there you go. Yes, I do. 00:02:17
I have a question about the. I know we took three and a half million out of the revenue side and 3 1/2 out of the expenditure 00:02:24
side. 00:02:29
Which umm. 00:02:35
I'm not, I'm not sure why we are leaving the 2.5 in there at this point because what is our basis for that? I mean it kind of tips 00:02:38
our hand a little bit. 00:02:44
If we put things out, forbid. 00:02:50
And. 00:02:53
If we. 00:02:54
Just take it out of there. 00:02:55
Um, the draw from. 00:02:58
Fund equity would be a million. 00:03:01
6169. 00:03:03
And instead of 3.5 million until we actually have. 00:03:07
Revenue stream, I know we and. 00:03:12
If I'm not mistaken. 00:03:15
We have $1,000,000 reserved. 00:03:20
ARPA money, right? Yeah. 00:03:22
So it just to me it seems like a little bit cleaner way to reevaluate. 00:03:26
Taking it out. 00:03:34
And not having anything in there because we are going to amend the budget when once we, you know, take another look at the plans 00:03:35
and everything, we'll have a better idea of what it should be. 00:03:41
Was there? 00:03:49
Any anticipated? 00:03:51
Is there anything else anticipated above and beyond the? 00:03:53
What would be done under the bid construction? Bid that for work? 00:03:57
To be done there. 00:04:02
But it does leave 494,939 in that line item. 00:04:04
Depending on what Council's desire is with the. 00:04:13
The layout and how the architectural design is affected. 00:04:16
There may be some expense there, but I think the 400. 00:04:21
Would would cover. 00:04:24
But we could go ahead and do the roof, but if we wait on that too. 00:04:27
Well. 00:04:33
You know, I want the last thing I want to share is that I had a really good conversation Friday of last week with our. 00:04:36
Attorney Amanda. 00:04:45
Who was filling in Saccoli? Yes. 00:04:48
Umm, and she had seen the meeting and umm she had spoken with Mr. BlackBerry, who of course was there at the meeting and we talked 00:04:51
about all the different options. 00:04:58
And the safety Nets and so forth that we had through state code sections about extending. 00:05:05
You know, should we not be able to do that, but agreed fully that we. 00:05:13
What we want to do is have the budget done on time and I think we can do that. 00:05:18
For sure. 00:05:23
Umm, but? I asked him at the end of the conversation. 00:05:25
If you if your firm were to give us. 00:05:29
Some advice on this issue? What would it be? 00:05:32
And she said well. 00:05:36
What we think would be the easiest thing is to take both of those line items out, the revenue and the expenditure for the 00:05:38
building, sort out what you want to get done. 00:05:43
With the building. 00:05:48
And in the mean time, maybe you get closer to execution on the real estate. 00:05:50
And you can make an amendment to the budget that way. 00:05:56
You're not tipping anybody. 00:06:00
On when you do put it back out for proposal. 00:06:02
About what's in there. 00:06:06
So I think that's good advice. 00:06:08
Yeah, I mean. 00:06:13
It really doesn't. 00:06:14
Like I said. 00:06:16
It's semantics to me, and purely semantics because. 00:06:18
You know, it's our intention and desire to try to get into the building next year. We know it's going to cost money. 00:06:22
You know, I am OK either way. Like I say, it's just going back into general fund. 00:06:28
Which is where some of that money is already now and so. 00:06:33
You know, we, we reallocate and do a budget. I'm I'm OK with that if that's what. 00:06:38
If that's the discussion, so. 00:06:45
I agree with both of you. I want to get in the building as soon as possible and. 00:06:49
And I want to make sure it's done right but. 00:06:53
If that's the only. 00:06:56
If that's the only thing, that's. 00:06:58
Holding you up. 00:07:00
I don't see where that would be a problem because we can always amend it. 00:07:01
Later on because we're going to have to go out in the beach. 00:07:06
Yeah, I mean, I do believe it's the gonna. 00:07:10
End results could be the same thing either way, so. 00:07:12
I mean, yeah, it will be. 00:07:16
But I do suggest that within the next month. 00:07:20
Within the next calendar month. 00:07:24
That we actually we need to have a. 00:07:26
City Council. 00:07:29
Work session on City Hall so we can actually iron things out as a council as far as what our plans are going to be. We need to do 00:07:31
that sooner than later. 00:07:35
I agree. 00:07:38
One of the things, I think some of the things that are. 00:07:41
In contention or up for discussion now or things that. 00:07:44
Were decided upon. 00:07:48
By the previous Council or whatever, and. 00:07:49
Obviously we've got a new council now and. 00:07:53
But we're also building. 00:07:56
Building a building for the next. 00:07:58
4050 years probably, you know, so trying to be mindful of you know what. 00:08:00
What are you know, what are, what are the future needs, you know, without overbuilding and expending funds now? 00:08:06
That we don't, you know, need to spend for 20 years. I'm not asking. 00:08:13
To do that, but we certainly like say we need to. 00:08:16
Need to settle on. 00:08:19
You know what the scope of that work is, but. 00:08:20
If that's amenable to everybody on staff there that we just go ahead and. 00:08:23
Can we change just to make sure that we're on the same page of what we're doing? 00:08:27
Is we're not just. 00:08:33
Here. Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt. I think you've got what up was a fixed master. 00:08:35
OK, my understanding is. 00:08:41
You want to remove the 2.5 out of fund equity. 00:08:43
Correct. You also want to remove the 2.5. 00:08:48
Out of general governmental buildings, leaving the 494. 00:08:51
In governmental buildings. 00:08:57
OK. All right. 00:08:59
So good, Yeah, that'll reduce the draw and fund equity to 1,000,000. 00:09:01
6000. 00:09:06
So is that what I'm understanding? Is that correct? 00:09:09
I'm sorry, could you say that? I don't know. 00:09:13
What about the fund Equity 1.6 right? 00:09:17
1,000,000. 00:09:21
6169 dollars. 00:09:23
To make sure that everybody hears it on here. 00:09:27
Oh, sorry. 00:09:29
So that would. 00:09:31
Yeah. So that would take fund equity in $1,006,169. 00:09:33
And it would typing. 00:09:38
General governmental buildings to 494,939 dollars. 00:09:39
Yes. 00:09:46
Got that it? Good. That's it. 00:09:50
OK. 00:09:53
All right, is there? 00:09:54
Anything else? 00:09:56
Anything else is going to keep you from voting Yeah on Monday. 00:09:57
Let's hear it now, please. I'm all in. 00:10:01
In comparison, that's right. 00:10:06
Yeah, as long as we're all even here, we're on the same page, we can consent this Monday night, so. 00:10:09
So everybody pretty much figured. 00:10:16
We don't do that. 00:10:18
Yeah. Thank you. 00:10:20
OK. Anything else? 00:10:22
Public. 00:10:28
I mean, yeah, I'm talking about. 00:10:31
You talking about to me, this guy? Yeah. Yes, Sir. 00:10:36
You're saying I've Saints tonight? You did last time. Yes, I did, you know. Yes, Sir. And I was wrong by doing that. Everybody 00:10:41
else wronged by doing that. 00:10:45
Sir, Yes, Sir. 00:10:51
Any other? 00:10:55
Comments. 00:10:56
I mean, I don't know that we necessarily have a. 00:10:58
Grant an audience. But if you've got something you want to say that needs to be said, I think this is the time to do it so we can 00:11:02
get. 00:11:05
Is it where we need to be come Monday night? So if anybody wants to come up. 00:11:08
Otherwise, we'll all be happy Monday night. 00:11:13
All right. Amen. 00:11:16