4th Quarter Town Hall
Transcript
| Good evening. We'll call the. | 00:00:04 | |
| Quarterly town hall meeting. | 00:00:06 | |
| For the city of Saint Mary's to order. | 00:00:08 | |
| And. | 00:00:10 | |
| The microphone is. | 00:00:12 | |
| Open the podium is. | 00:00:13 | |
| There and if you'll. | 00:00:15 | |
| Want to come up and have any comments just. | 00:00:19 | |
| Please remember to give us your name and address and. | 00:00:22 | |
| Try to keep it in 5 minutes or less. | 00:00:25 | |
| I'm going to start out because. | 00:00:36 | |
| I'll be there, OK. | 00:00:37 | |
| Only, only 'cause it's Larry. | 00:00:42 | |
| And I gracious Judy Turner, 202 W Bryant. That's our fleet close. Can you hear me? | 00:00:44 | |
| OK, I only have a couple of things and I really came not intending. | 00:00:52 | |
| To really speak, but I totally have been. | 00:00:58 | |
| Convinced to speak. | 00:01:01 | |
| Main problem I. | 00:01:03 | |
| There's this aesthetic type things is the downtown. | 00:01:04 | |
| You live downtown. | 00:01:10 | |
| You live downtown, OK. Several of us live downtown. | 00:01:12 | |
| I could point fingers. | 00:01:16 | |
| If you've ridden around at night. | 00:01:17 | |
| Downtown is. | 00:01:21 | |
| Dark umm. | 00:01:22 | |
| There are only a few establishments that are open. | 00:01:24 | |
| But the establishments we have. | 00:01:28 | |
| They don't have their porch lights on. | 00:01:31 | |
| I have a porch light. | 00:01:33 | |
| Right, we have tourists. | 00:01:36 | |
| And they walk around, and they avoid the dark. | 00:01:38 | |
| Even Orange Hall. | 00:01:42 | |
| Is dark. | 00:01:43 | |
| The plum that we have. | 00:01:45 | |
| We need to turn some lights on. | 00:01:48 | |
| You and I have heard, Shirley. | 00:01:51 | |
| Bring it up several times. How? | 00:01:53 | |
| Dark it is down some of these streets. | 00:01:56 | |
| There are a lot of people that like to walk. | 00:01:59 | |
| Or ride their bicycle. | 00:02:01 | |
| They stay away from the dark. Do we want our tourists or visitors to our town? | 00:02:04 | |
| To think we are not open for business. | 00:02:09 | |
| I work on several boards. | 00:02:12 | |
| And where all the time trying to bring. | 00:02:15 | |
| Heads to beds. | 00:02:18 | |
| Or bring people to come to our town. | 00:02:20 | |
| We need to turn it on. | 00:02:23 | |
| Like Wig? | 00:02:25 | |
| We want them to come. | 00:02:26 | |
| Don't trick or treaters come around. | 00:02:28 | |
| How do you stop the trick or treaters? | 00:02:30 | |
| You turn your porch light on. | 00:02:33 | |
| Right. | 00:02:35 | |
| Same thing applies. It's not a very inviting book. | 00:02:37 | |
| So I encourage you, you're not the only ones I'm going to ask to work on this. | 00:02:40 | |
| But I'd appreciate if you'd support. | 00:02:46 | |
| Some of our merchants. | 00:02:48 | |
| Once you cross the railroad tracks. | 00:02:49 | |
| Going out of town, there's a lot of lives. | 00:02:53 | |
| Coming into town. | 00:02:56 | |
| It's like the town is turned off. | 00:02:57 | |
| I know that's probably a girly thing. | 00:03:01 | |
| That turn your lights on. | 00:03:04 | |
| The next thing? | 00:03:07 | |
| I'm curious. | 00:03:09 | |
| We have talked about it in the past and I most recently went to a tree board meeting. | 00:03:10 | |
| We have trees that are identified in our town. | 00:03:16 | |
| They're on a list of. | 00:03:19 | |
| Historic register or whatever. | 00:03:22 | |
| 12 or 13 of them. | 00:03:24 | |
| Do we have a truck route? | 00:03:26 | |
| We have talked about it before. I'm. | 00:03:30 | |
| Not pickup trucks. I'm talking delivery trucks. | 00:03:33 | |
| They're hitting our oak trees. | 00:03:37 | |
| If you don't believe me. | 00:03:39 | |
| Ride down the street and look up. | 00:03:41 | |
| You don't see the scars, Some of them are very fresh. | 00:03:43 | |
| Because the trucks hit on. | 00:03:47 | |
| If you pay attention you can hear them comment. | 00:03:49 | |
| Chat can probably hear him coming at his house. | 00:03:52 | |
| They come and they go and they hit our oak trees. | 00:03:55 | |
| I know it would take a little effort. | 00:03:59 | |
| But I would love to sit down with someone to show you how you can come to town. | 00:04:02 | |
| On another St. other than Osborne. | 00:04:07 | |
| Today I was actually out there. Chris and I were out. | 00:04:11 | |
| On the street getting ready for the festival this weekend. | 00:04:15 | |
| Huge delivery truck. | 00:04:19 | |
| In the middle of the road. | 00:04:22 | |
| Part there we could not even leave until he was through delivering. | 00:04:24 | |
| He was parked in front of all the businesses on Saint Mary St. | 00:04:29 | |
| We have a boat ramp area. | 00:04:34 | |
| Where a truck? | 00:04:36 | |
| And hand truck it in. They're already hand trucking it in anyhow. | 00:04:38 | |
| But I think some attention. | 00:04:42 | |
| The more terrorists we have. | 00:04:44 | |
| The less safe it is. | 00:04:46 | |
| Because. | 00:04:49 | |
| The cars are having to go around these trucks that park in the middle of. | 00:04:50 | |
| Right there, that one Main Street that we have all the brick pavers. | 00:04:54 | |
| I encourage you to. | 00:04:59 | |
| Look at the truck. | 00:05:01 | |
| I might have had another. | 00:05:05 | |
| I'll save it for next. | 00:05:10 | |
| Thank you. | 00:05:13 | |
| I've gotten in enough trouble as it is. | 00:05:16 | |
| Larry White, 102 Sylv. | 00:05:33 | |
| Saint Marys. | 00:05:35 | |
| My wife and I went to the Senior Center today. | 00:05:38 | |
| There's going to be a speaker about. | 00:05:40 | |
| Providing non-emergency transportation. | 00:05:43 | |
| To the seniors. | 00:05:45 | |
| And that's what I was looking at because I'm getting to the age where. | 00:05:47 | |
| Eventually I won't be able to drive anymore. Neither will my wife. | 00:05:50 | |
| So I need to find out about transportation. | 00:05:54 | |
| Speaker is supposed to be there at 10:30. | 00:05:57 | |
| All right. We've got there about 10:15. | 00:06:00 | |
| We sat up in front and we waited, and we waited. | 00:06:03 | |
| They'll find about 20 past. | 00:06:07 | |
| 20 minutes to 11. | 00:06:10 | |
| I finally went. | 00:06:12 | |
| Thought that the Senior Center manager and asked her. | 00:06:13 | |
| What happened to the speaker? | 00:06:17 | |
| She said well. | 00:06:19 | |
| They're late. I don't know if they're coming. | 00:06:20 | |
| And they've been trying to get ahold of him this morning. | 00:06:23 | |
| And they couldn't get a hold of him. | 00:06:26 | |
| I think to myself, well, if I was going to have the speaker come in. | 00:06:28 | |
| Gentleman the day before. | 00:06:31 | |
| So eventually my wife and I finally left. | 00:06:33 | |
| There was no speaker. | 00:06:36 | |
| While I was waiting for the speaker to show up. | 00:06:40 | |
| I walked around the Senior Center. | 00:06:42 | |
| In the back. | 00:06:45 | |
| When we 1st and I will admit I haven't been to the Senior Center for a long time. | 00:06:47 | |
| When I first went there. | 00:06:52 | |
| Several months ago. | 00:06:54 | |
| Those rooms had chairs, tables. | 00:06:57 | |
| There's a game room. There's a puzzle room. | 00:07:00 | |
| He had a room when he still had the pool table and the ping pong table. | 00:07:03 | |
| And the basketball shooting thing. | 00:07:06 | |
| When I went back there today. | 00:07:08 | |
| Half the rooms were empty. | 00:07:11 | |
| No tables, no chairs. | 00:07:13 | |
| So in my mind. | 00:07:15 | |
| Why did the city go ahead? | 00:07:18 | |
| And with the help of somebody else. | 00:07:20 | |
| Don't you say that going? | 00:07:23 | |
| And open that Senior Center. | 00:07:24 | |
| If they're not going to use. | 00:07:26 | |
| All available space. | 00:07:27 | |
| In the Senior Center. | 00:07:29 | |
| My mind that is a waste. | 00:07:31 | |
| Of building space. | 00:07:33 | |
| Right now from what I could tell. | 00:07:35 | |
| Not only are they feeding the people. | 00:07:38 | |
| In the main room. | 00:07:40 | |
| But they also have all the games. | 00:07:41 | |
| The conductor in the main room. | 00:07:43 | |
| And used about everything else they do. | 00:07:45 | |
| Plus putting puzzles together. | 00:07:47 | |
| Is that main room? | 00:07:49 | |
| That's not right. | 00:07:51 | |
| I thought we, I thought the city purchased that building. | 00:07:53 | |
| With the intent at the Senior Center. | 00:07:56 | |
| They have individual rooms. | 00:07:58 | |
| Or individual activities. | 00:08:00 | |
| Not have everything in one room. | 00:08:02 | |
| Now I know why that's happening. | 00:08:04 | |
| Because too many of the seniors complain about that. | 00:08:06 | |
| You want to play. | 00:08:09 | |
| And eat in the same area. | 00:08:10 | |
| That's not sanitary. | 00:08:13 | |
| You don't want people eating on the same tables. | 00:08:15 | |
| That you're going to have people playing games. | 00:08:18 | |
| Especially in this climate. | 00:08:20 | |
| We've got the flu coming up. | 00:08:22 | |
| Cords were becoming. | 00:08:24 | |
| And luckily my wife and I got to. | 00:08:27 | |
| The COVID shot for the seniors. | 00:08:29 | |
| There's not too many places in Saint Mary's that are available. | 00:08:31 | |
| And right now the only one I know of. | 00:08:34 | |
| Is at the. | 00:08:36 | |
| Walgreens. | 00:08:38 | |
| In Kingsland, so if anybody's listening, that are seniors. | 00:08:39 | |
| That's where you need to go to get your. | 00:08:43 | |
| Plus you have to have a prescription. | 00:08:45 | |
| We doctor to get it. | 00:08:47 | |
| That's changed too. | 00:08:48 | |
| Texas federal government. | 00:08:50 | |
| Stuck their nose in it. | 00:08:52 | |
| Used to be you could get it and not have to have a prescription. | 00:08:55 | |
| But now you do. | 00:08:58 | |
| Also notice why we went to the Senior Center. | 00:09:00 | |
| Because I don't go upstairs very well. | 00:09:03 | |
| We came up the ramp into the Senior Center. | 00:09:05 | |
| Right at the base of that ramp. | 00:09:08 | |
| If we have a downspouts coming down. | 00:09:10 | |
| From the building. | 00:09:12 | |
| So if it's rain in any heart, type R. | 00:09:14 | |
| All that water is going to come down right on that. | 00:09:17 | |
| Entrance to the ramp for people go up. | 00:09:19 | |
| And that's where when the bus stops. | 00:09:21 | |
| To let the seniors. | 00:09:23 | |
| That's where they all come up as in that ramp. | 00:09:25 | |
| Now you're just waiting. | 00:09:27 | |
| Or slip and fall. | 00:09:29 | |
| That happened at that right into that ramp. | 00:09:31 | |
| And I know that said he's gone through one. | 00:09:33 | |
| One lawsuit about Trip. | 00:09:35 | |
| At the old Senior Center at Davis St. | 00:09:39 | |
| And luckily it was dismissed. | 00:09:41 | |
| But this time I may not be dismissed. | 00:09:44 | |
| If one of the senior strips and falls. | 00:09:46 | |
| Because you've got water gushing out of that. | 00:09:48 | |
| Downspout. | 00:09:51 | |
| Something's gonna happen. | 00:09:52 | |
| Now I thought that the director about that and she said. | 00:09:54 | |
| She's tried. She's already told the city about it. | 00:09:56 | |
| Phobic works. | 00:09:59 | |
| And nothing's been done about it. | 00:10:00 | |
| We're coming up on some heavy rain this weekend and Monday and Tuesday. | 00:10:02 | |
| So be careful. | 00:10:07 | |
| All right, you may put. | 00:10:08 | |
| Rush on that order. | 00:10:12 | |
| Different item. I'm sorry, Charlie. | 00:10:18 | |
| Golf carts. | 00:10:22 | |
| I'll bring this up again. | 00:10:25 | |
| There is more to Saint Mary's than downtown Saint Mary's. | 00:10:27 | |
| Midtown Saint Mary's. | 00:10:31 | |
| Everybody that lives north. | 00:10:32 | |
| Of 40 and. | 00:10:34 | |
| West. | 00:10:37 | |
| Can I get downtown? | 00:10:39 | |
| With the golf cart. | 00:10:40 | |
| There's no possible way unless they want to break the law. | 00:10:42 | |
| And I've seen too many people do that. | 00:10:45 | |
| I've seen so many golf carts. | 00:10:46 | |
| On a sidewalk. | 00:10:48 | |
| On 4040. | 00:10:49 | |
| If you have stayed cheap if you stationed a cop there. | 00:10:51 | |
| You're going to see him. | 00:10:54 | |
| All the time. | 00:10:55 | |
| They just ride up and down and walk. | 00:10:56 | |
| Sidewalk and I'm not supposed to do that. | 00:10:59 | |
| Now I would like to see the city work on a plan. | 00:11:01 | |
| With the state so that. | 00:11:03 | |
| Those of us that live. | 00:11:05 | |
| Outside downtown. | 00:11:07 | |
| And come downtown with a golf cart. | 00:11:08 | |
| And I'm sure I used up my 5 minutes. | 00:11:11 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 00:11:13 | |
| Thank you. | 00:11:14 | |
| I agree. | 00:11:16 | |
| Mercedes 816 Riverview. | 00:11:31 | |
| I didn't come to this meet man. | 00:11:35 | |
| You know, I didn't know about this meeting. | 00:11:37 | |
| So I'm catching up with some of the stuff. | 00:11:38 | |
| In support of. | 00:11:43 | |
| Yes, I've seen it, Santa. | 00:11:45 | |
| You know, there are other rooms that I mean. | 00:11:48 | |
| Take you know, we do the Zumba I get there and I do for. | 00:11:51 | |
| Chair Zumba. | 00:11:56 | |
| I can't stand up and do it. | 00:11:57 | |
| But so we do. We do have that. | 00:11:59 | |
| And we do have the meditation. | 00:12:02 | |
| Different things I don't understand. | 00:12:04 | |
| Mr. White, maybe? | 00:12:06 | |
| Doesn't go to those things, but I do, so I know the other rooms are being occupied. | 00:12:07 | |
| Right. And it depends of. | 00:12:12 | |
| Of you know what? | 00:12:14 | |
| But what you doing? | 00:12:16 | |
| So. | 00:12:18 | |
| And. | 00:12:19 | |
| I missed the. | 00:12:22 | |
| The boy because. | 00:12:23 | |
| Which was last Friday. | 00:12:25 | |
| I was ready. | 00:12:27 | |
| For that too. | 00:12:28 | |
| But my daughter. | 00:12:30 | |
| Superseded. | 00:12:32 | |
| Given him the wifey. | 00:12:34 | |
| A surprise gift? | 00:12:36 | |
| On a cruise and they left on Friday. | 00:12:38 | |
| So I'd hang a suit up. | 00:12:40 | |
| I'm going to close. | 00:12:44 | |
| You know, because even though it's all was going on, so. | 00:12:45 | |
| I I would like to maybe. | 00:12:51 | |
| Said I don't have that door but didn't have much to see but. | 00:12:55 | |
| It would be nice. Umm. | 00:12:57 | |
| In reference to what's going on with the. | 00:12:59 | |
| The planning for the Gilman area. | 00:13:02 | |
| And the other one. | 00:13:05 | |
| Down we street I was called the German Boathouse. I forget what they call it now. | 00:13:07 | |
| It'd be nice to find out what's going on with these things in those areas, you know what I mean? Because. | 00:13:13 | |
| Especially a Gilman please man, I'm a little upset with. | 00:13:19 | |
| Jacobian. | 00:13:23 | |
| And he don't want to give it up. | 00:13:24 | |
| You know, I mean so it can move on. | 00:13:26 | |
| But I think. | 00:13:29 | |
| I don't know what could be done. I know this is in court and this so. | 00:13:30 | |
| So as far as the. | 00:13:34 | |
| Coming on inlet property. | 00:13:36 | |
| The old paper mill site. | 00:13:38 | |
| The next I guess date. | 00:13:41 | |
| Is October 15th. | 00:13:43 | |
| Is when the bankruptcy court? | 00:13:45 | |
| Is supposed to decide. | 00:13:47 | |
| Between the plan offered by Mr. Jacoby. | 00:13:49 | |
| Or the plan. | 00:13:53 | |
| Offered by the Joint Development Authority. | 00:13:54 | |
| And I don't know all the specifics so I don't want to speak out of turn, but I know basically. | 00:13:58 | |
| The Joint Development Authority is asking for the bankruptcy to be dismissed. | 00:14:03 | |
| Which basically the. | 00:14:07 | |
| Property would come back to the Joint Development authority for it. | 00:14:08 | |
| To be able to. | 00:14:11 | |
| Remarket. | 00:14:12 | |
| And. | 00:14:14 | |
| Best I understand. | 00:14:15 | |
| Mr. Jacobi's plan basically is. | 00:14:17 | |
| Requesting 90 additional days. | 00:14:19 | |
| Where he's still trying to work with a. | 00:14:24 | |
| Find another investor Find an investor to. | 00:14:26 | |
| To pay for it so. | 00:14:29 | |
| Whatever those exact plans are right so. | 00:14:30 | |
| You know, I'm not sure that that could be. | 00:14:33 | |
| Found I'm sure but. | 00:14:36 | |
| October 15th is the date when that. | 00:14:37 | |
| The judge is supposed to make his decision. | 00:14:40 | |
| And we'll know kind of what the next step is. | 00:14:43 | |
| At that point, so. | 00:14:45 | |
| That's what we're waiting on there. | 00:14:46 | |
| What am I doing there? | 00:14:48 | |
| I believe Monday or actually should see digging by Tuesday. | 00:14:51 | |
| For the archaeological 2 phase. | 00:14:56 | |
| Phase two study is. | 00:14:58 | |
| They're scheduled to be here on Monday, and digging is supposed to commence by Tuesday. | 00:15:00 | |
| For that archaeological study, that has to be completed before. | 00:15:06 | |
| They can get permission to move on. | 00:15:10 | |
| And that's supposed to start Monday or Tuesday. | 00:15:12 | |
| Thank you. | 00:15:15 | |
| Well, how's everybody doing tonight? | 00:15:29 | |
| I'm Mark Founce and I live at 310 W Bryan Street. | 00:15:31 | |
| Just got a couple of things I wanted to. | 00:15:35 | |
| To ask about. | 00:15:37 | |
| Exit 1. | 00:15:39 | |
| If anybody's gone down through. | 00:15:41 | |
| The road there you can see they've got. | 00:15:44 | |
| Quite a bit of. | 00:15:46 | |
| Construction stuff going on, they're making it looks like they're making pretty good headway. | 00:15:49 | |
| I'd really like to see. | 00:15:54 | |
| Or have a. | 00:15:56 | |
| I guess an in depth. | 00:15:59 | |
| Presentation about. | 00:16:03 | |
| How Exit 1 is coming as far as its timetable, as far as its budget. | 00:16:05 | |
| I know that I don't know this, but my understanding is that as exit 1. | 00:16:12 | |
| Perceives that somehow or another, the. | 00:16:19 | |
| The property taxes or what have you. | 00:16:22 | |
| Increase and that's what's going to be used to pay the bond off. | 00:16:24 | |
| Really like for someone to speak very specifically about that process. | 00:16:28 | |
| Do they write? | 00:16:35 | |
| Do they write a check to the city or to the JDA or whoever has that bond? | 00:16:36 | |
| To pay for it and do somebody else write a check to the bondholder? I don't I don't understand how the money moves around. | 00:16:41 | |
| And I'd like to understand that just to make sure that. | 00:16:48 | |
| It looks like it's on time. We may be in in better shape with the bond than anybody knows. | 00:16:52 | |
| But certainly that's something I think all the citizens are very interested in is just. | 00:16:58 | |
| Exactly where are we with that bond as far as paying it off and the. | 00:17:03 | |
| The dollars that are that are necessary to work with that. | 00:17:07 | |
| The other thing that I wanted to talk about two other things. | 00:17:12 | |
| Jamie and I talked about a little bit earlier. | 00:17:15 | |
| With the amount of. | 00:17:19 | |
| This brunette maps aren't up here anymore. With the amount of development going on in Saint Mary's, there's probably what. | 00:17:21 | |
| 4 or 5000 living units. | 00:17:27 | |
| Projected to be built in Saint Mary's in the next five years. | 00:17:29 | |
| I haven't seen any type of a. | 00:17:34 | |
| Strategic plan. | 00:17:37 | |
| About Building Schools. | 00:17:39 | |
| They spoke a little bit about about the the sewer situation. | 00:17:42 | |
| I'm going to be kind of selfish here. | 00:17:48 | |
| Hope you all excuse me but. | 00:17:51 | |
| Quite frankly, all the people that are living up on Exit 1. | 00:17:53 | |
| I can see my tax dollars need to go there to pay for a school. | 00:17:58 | |
| Or pay for their sewers. | 00:18:02 | |
| I'm not getting any benefit out of that whatsoever. | 00:18:03 | |
| I think you can address it by making some type of a sliding scale or some type of. | 00:18:08 | |
| Of a method based on the population of the number of living units. | 00:18:13 | |
| For the developer to put down a bond on some of those things. | 00:18:18 | |
| You know you're gonna have to have it. | 00:18:21 | |
| And you better plan for it now because when it comes, you're going to be like, just like. | 00:18:23 | |
| The county was. | 00:18:29 | |
| You know, they want to hit everybody with a huge tax thing because they want to build a. | 00:18:30 | |
| What a $30 million jail all at one time. | 00:18:34 | |
| That's been coming around for years and years and years. That's not new. | 00:18:38 | |
| But they just put it down the road and didn't think about it. | 00:18:42 | |
| We need to think about those kinds of things. We need to think about them as they're building. | 00:18:45 | |
| And as I say, the people who are actually in those areas. | 00:18:49 | |
| They're the ones who need to be paying for because it benefits them directly. | 00:18:52 | |
| And that can be through impact fees, that can be through bonding, that can be for I don't know how you could do it. | 00:18:57 | |
| But I think that's something that needs to be considered with the city. | 00:19:02 | |
| And not just say we're going to increase taxes on everybody. | 00:19:06 | |
| It's not fair. | 00:19:09 | |
| I don't like it. | 00:19:10 | |
| I did want to touch on JDA. Burke did a little bit on it. | 00:19:13 | |
| I'd really like to see a presentation on from JDA on two different subjects, one of them. | 00:19:19 | |
| Is is detailing that Cumberland Inlet status? | 00:19:24 | |
| Four years ago, when they started the Cumberland Inlet? I asked. | 00:19:28 | |
| Mr. Coughlin, point blank. | 00:19:32 | |
| Will the city, will the citizens of Saint Mary's, ever be liable for that bond in any way, shape or form? | 00:19:34 | |
| And he told me no. | 00:19:40 | |
| Well, he didn't think that. | 00:19:42 | |
| Jacoby was going to have the problems that he had. | 00:19:44 | |
| And, and I'm, I'm pretty sure that he's planning on like you said, picking up the the property and doing a resale on it. | 00:19:47 | |
| That should worry people. If Jacoby, he's the brownfield builder. | 00:19:55 | |
| He's probably the best person in the country who would know how to do something with that, with that. | 00:20:00 | |
| That property. | 00:20:04 | |
| And even he couldn't get the funding to make it work right. | 00:20:06 | |
| So if the ADA takes the property back. | 00:20:10 | |
| When they still be looking at a property that nobody wants. | 00:20:13 | |
| Unsellable. | 00:20:16 | |
| But the bond was already out there. | 00:20:18 | |
| So how's it going to get paid? | 00:20:20 | |
| You know, you you can't, you can't, you can't sell junk. | 00:20:23 | |
| That's just the way it is and that may be a situation we're in, so I'd really like for. | 00:20:26 | |
| The JDA to make a presentation and tell us. | 00:20:30 | |
| Exactly where they stand. They can probably do it after the 15th. | 00:20:33 | |
| There's really no use doing anything prior to that. | 00:20:37 | |
| And the other thing I'd like to see the JDA do is a full financial disclosure. | 00:20:40 | |
| Of where they take our money and where they spend it to. | 00:20:45 | |
| I know they they. | 00:20:48 | |
| A little presentation. | 00:20:50 | |
| I want to see the financial statements. | 00:20:52 | |
| I want to know what my return on investments are. | 00:20:53 | |
| JEA to me is just like Debind stock. | 00:20:56 | |
| When I buy stock. | 00:21:00 | |
| I'll look at the financial statements on them. I want to know what I'm getting. | 00:21:01 | |
| And when I buy it, I get an annual report. | 00:21:05 | |
| I don't want to know what my return on investment is. I want to know that. | 00:21:08 | |
| The revenues, I want to know the expenses. | 00:21:11 | |
| And I want to know the same thing with JDA because they take in millions of dollars. | 00:21:14 | |
| And I want to be sure they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. | 00:21:18 | |
| Because at this point. | 00:21:21 | |
| Quite frankly, I don't see them. | 00:21:23 | |
| Really making a lot of headway. | 00:21:25 | |
| I'm not I'm. | 00:21:27 | |
| I'm not happy with it. | 00:21:29 | |
| But I don't know if I'm. | 00:21:31 | |
| Expecting more than I should be. | 00:21:32 | |
| But I think JDA, they should be doing this on an annual basis. | 00:21:34 | |
| For Saint Mary's. | 00:21:38 | |
| And for the for the county. | 00:21:40 | |
| Everybody needs to understand where JDA is. | 00:21:42 | |
| And if they're not meeting the if they're not meeting expectations. | 00:21:45 | |
| Somebody needs to call it out on it. | 00:21:48 | |
| There's too much money involved in it. | 00:21:51 | |
| Thank you. | 00:21:53 | |
| OK, Councillor. | 00:21:56 | |
| I'll respond to some. | 00:22:04 | |
| Sir. | 00:22:06 | |
| That's a bit quick. | 00:22:12 | |
| When we talking about tact. | 00:22:15 | |
| 816 remember you drive it. | 00:22:17 | |
| OK, umm. | 00:22:19 | |
| Only talking about taxes and. | 00:22:21 | |
| You know, slide. | 00:22:24 | |
| And that don't work. | 00:22:26 | |
| You know I mean. | 00:22:28 | |
| And know what what he said. | 00:22:29 | |
| You know. | 00:22:32 | |
| Some of us. | 00:22:35 | |
| Wasn't able to. | 00:22:37 | |
| Produced in terms of. | 00:22:39 | |
| Putting money into a system because we were poor. | 00:22:42 | |
| You understand? | 00:22:46 | |
| And uh. | 00:22:48 | |
| So hopefully. | 00:22:49 | |
| The bulk of the other the folks who could afford. | 00:22:51 | |
| And hope that somewhere down the road. | 00:22:55 | |
| And when we were able to carry it forever, carried on down the road. | 00:22:58 | |
| That the we will. | 00:23:02 | |
| Fall in line and pee. | 00:23:04 | |
| Some monies or. | 00:23:06 | |
| Taxes and not complain too much. | 00:23:09 | |
| You know what I mean? | 00:23:12 | |
| Because. | 00:23:13 | |
| I can't answer for everybody as I can answer myself. | 00:23:15 | |
| I know what it was when you don't have a damn scent. | 00:23:18 | |
| And you were poor. | 00:23:21 | |
| You know what I mean? | 00:23:23 | |
| People carrying that load. | 00:23:24 | |
| You know so. | 00:23:26 | |
| In Saint Mary's year with a. | 00:23:27 | |
| Kind of situation where? | 00:23:29 | |
| Not everybody got a load. | 00:23:31 | |
| However, I don't think they could do a slide. | 00:23:33 | |
| When you're taxing, you're taxing. | 00:23:36 | |
| Everybody gotta be. | 00:23:38 | |
| You know what I mean? | 00:23:40 | |
| When you come to that. | 00:23:41 | |
| I think the. | 00:23:44 | |
| Some folks don't think. | 00:23:46 | |
| But I went through that and I think it's fair because I know I am able to do it. | 00:23:48 | |
| And I pee my Fisher. | 00:23:52 | |
| That's all I want. | 00:23:56 | |
| Thank you. | 00:23:57 | |
| If you'll indulge me, I'm going to be like the Senate, playing my time back. | 00:24:06 | |
| Real quick. | 00:24:10 | |
| Catch somebody? Could y'all make a presentation at one of the City Council meetings about the situation with the new City Hall? | 00:24:11 | |
| Telling us exactly where we stand on it. | 00:24:19 | |
| You know, it looks like it's what, a year behind moving in time? | 00:24:22 | |
| And let everybody know. | 00:24:25 | |
| What the problems are, what the costs are? | 00:24:27 | |
| You know exactly what your time frame is. | 00:24:30 | |
| On getting things moving into that building and out of this building as far as the saving, what have you with that? | 00:24:33 | |
| Seems to be something that's just kind of up in the air. | 00:24:38 | |
| Thank you. | 00:24:41 | |
| Just to say that you know, we for several months ago we had some. | 00:24:42 | |
| Initial bid. | 00:24:46 | |
| Presented and. | 00:24:47 | |
| Castle thought it was too much and we went back to the drawing table to try to reduce some of the. | 00:24:49 | |
| Expenses associated inside the building, a new plan has been. | 00:24:54 | |
| Put together and is. | 00:24:59 | |
| He's being finalized with some of the final. | 00:25:00 | |
| You know, engineering parts of the drawing so that it can go out forbid but. | 00:25:03 | |
| The plan has been revised. | 00:25:08 | |
| And should be going out forbid again. | 00:25:10 | |
| Hopefully within the next couple of weeks we'll get it back out, forbid and then. | 00:25:13 | |
| Then we'll have to wait. | 00:25:17 | |
| What, 45 days or 3045 days? | 00:25:18 | |
| At least. But ma'am, probably. Yeah. So. | 00:25:21 | |
| So hopefully before the end of the year we'll have a. | 00:25:26 | |
| New price. | 00:25:29 | |
| For what we're looking at to. | 00:25:31 | |
| Possibly try to? | 00:25:33 | |
| Move forward. | 00:25:34 | |
| Excuse me? | 00:25:36 | |
| What needs to be done? | 00:25:37 | |
| In, what do you mean? | 00:25:39 | |
| What are you getting on? | 00:25:40 | |
| So I mean, if you go inside there, now there's really. | 00:25:42 | |
| No walls or anything, Offices in the inside. | 00:25:45 | |
| Other than. | 00:25:49 | |
| The conference space, you know that that's there, I mean. | 00:25:50 | |
| You know they had a existing. | 00:25:53 | |
| Area that. | 00:25:57 | |
| Was kind of a. | 00:25:58 | |
| Concave area or convex? | 00:25:59 | |
| And and yeah, opposite that, that's kind of been torn down, but. | 00:26:03 | |
| You know so. | 00:26:07 | |
| Actually construct the walls and you know, build the council chambers to. | 00:26:08 | |
| Build the offices. | 00:26:12 | |
| The building is pretty much a Walmart, you know, I mean, it's just pretty much just open, open space. | 00:26:14 | |
| And so to create all of those you know. | 00:26:20 | |
| Interior walls. | 00:26:23 | |
| Additional bathroom facilities and some of that kind of stuff that. | 00:26:25 | |
| You know all has to be done. Air conditioning. | 00:26:29 | |
| You know. | 00:26:33 | |
| Electrical, you know, all of that that you know would have to come with that. | 00:26:35 | |
| In that construction, so. | 00:26:39 | |
| All right. Is anyone else? | 00:26:44 | |
| All right. Thank you. We'll close this quarterly townhome. | 00:26:47 | |
| Can I can I share something real quick? | 00:26:50 | |
| I guess this Saturday. | 00:26:53 | |
| As the Seafood festival for Saint Mary. | 00:26:55 | |
| And there's one great thing I can tell you. | 00:26:59 | |
| We have. | 00:27:04 | |
| Rock Trump. | 00:27:05 | |
| And uh. | 00:27:08 | |
| And so we're looking forward to serving the meals on Saturday. | 00:27:09 | |
| And, and I'm excited to do that. | 00:27:14 | |
| So, so I just hear that with everybody. | 00:27:17 | |
| Thank you. | 00:27:19 | |
| The band will be there. | 00:27:20 | |
| High school The high school band is not planned there in a competition. | 00:27:22 | |
| And the. | 00:27:29 | |
| And base was they were in a. | 00:27:31 | |
| Try and say the word to use. | 00:27:39 | |
| I like them, but they're in. | 00:27:43 | |
| Turn that mode right now and so. | 00:27:46 | |
| We have the JRTC from the base. | 00:27:50 | |
| From the school system coming to be the honor guard. | 00:27:52 | |
| OK. | 00:27:56 |
Document list
| Document Name | Document type | |
|---|---|---|
| Notice | Other |
Transcript
| Good evening. We'll call the. | 00:00:04 | |
| Quarterly town hall meeting. | 00:00:06 | |
| For the city of Saint Mary's to order. | 00:00:08 | |
| And. | 00:00:10 | |
| The microphone is. | 00:00:12 | |
| Open the podium is. | 00:00:13 | |
| There and if you'll. | 00:00:15 | |
| Want to come up and have any comments just. | 00:00:19 | |
| Please remember to give us your name and address and. | 00:00:22 | |
| Try to keep it in 5 minutes or less. | 00:00:25 | |
| I'm going to start out because. | 00:00:36 | |
| I'll be there, OK. | 00:00:37 | |
| Only, only 'cause it's Larry. | 00:00:42 | |
| And I gracious Judy Turner, 202 W Bryant. That's our fleet close. Can you hear me? | 00:00:44 | |
| OK, I only have a couple of things and I really came not intending. | 00:00:52 | |
| To really speak, but I totally have been. | 00:00:58 | |
| Convinced to speak. | 00:01:01 | |
| Main problem I. | 00:01:03 | |
| There's this aesthetic type things is the downtown. | 00:01:04 | |
| You live downtown. | 00:01:10 | |
| You live downtown, OK. Several of us live downtown. | 00:01:12 | |
| I could point fingers. | 00:01:16 | |
| If you've ridden around at night. | 00:01:17 | |
| Downtown is. | 00:01:21 | |
| Dark umm. | 00:01:22 | |
| There are only a few establishments that are open. | 00:01:24 | |
| But the establishments we have. | 00:01:28 | |
| They don't have their porch lights on. | 00:01:31 | |
| I have a porch light. | 00:01:33 | |
| Right, we have tourists. | 00:01:36 | |
| And they walk around, and they avoid the dark. | 00:01:38 | |
| Even Orange Hall. | 00:01:42 | |
| Is dark. | 00:01:43 | |
| The plum that we have. | 00:01:45 | |
| We need to turn some lights on. | 00:01:48 | |
| You and I have heard, Shirley. | 00:01:51 | |
| Bring it up several times. How? | 00:01:53 | |
| Dark it is down some of these streets. | 00:01:56 | |
| There are a lot of people that like to walk. | 00:01:59 | |
| Or ride their bicycle. | 00:02:01 | |
| They stay away from the dark. Do we want our tourists or visitors to our town? | 00:02:04 | |
| To think we are not open for business. | 00:02:09 | |
| I work on several boards. | 00:02:12 | |
| And where all the time trying to bring. | 00:02:15 | |
| Heads to beds. | 00:02:18 | |
| Or bring people to come to our town. | 00:02:20 | |
| We need to turn it on. | 00:02:23 | |
| Like Wig? | 00:02:25 | |
| We want them to come. | 00:02:26 | |
| Don't trick or treaters come around. | 00:02:28 | |
| How do you stop the trick or treaters? | 00:02:30 | |
| You turn your porch light on. | 00:02:33 | |
| Right. | 00:02:35 | |
| Same thing applies. It's not a very inviting book. | 00:02:37 | |
| So I encourage you, you're not the only ones I'm going to ask to work on this. | 00:02:40 | |
| But I'd appreciate if you'd support. | 00:02:46 | |
| Some of our merchants. | 00:02:48 | |
| Once you cross the railroad tracks. | 00:02:49 | |
| Going out of town, there's a lot of lives. | 00:02:53 | |
| Coming into town. | 00:02:56 | |
| It's like the town is turned off. | 00:02:57 | |
| I know that's probably a girly thing. | 00:03:01 | |
| That turn your lights on. | 00:03:04 | |
| The next thing? | 00:03:07 | |
| I'm curious. | 00:03:09 | |
| We have talked about it in the past and I most recently went to a tree board meeting. | 00:03:10 | |
| We have trees that are identified in our town. | 00:03:16 | |
| They're on a list of. | 00:03:19 | |
| Historic register or whatever. | 00:03:22 | |
| 12 or 13 of them. | 00:03:24 | |
| Do we have a truck route? | 00:03:26 | |
| We have talked about it before. I'm. | 00:03:30 | |
| Not pickup trucks. I'm talking delivery trucks. | 00:03:33 | |
| They're hitting our oak trees. | 00:03:37 | |
| If you don't believe me. | 00:03:39 | |
| Ride down the street and look up. | 00:03:41 | |
| You don't see the scars, Some of them are very fresh. | 00:03:43 | |
| Because the trucks hit on. | 00:03:47 | |
| If you pay attention you can hear them comment. | 00:03:49 | |
| Chat can probably hear him coming at his house. | 00:03:52 | |
| They come and they go and they hit our oak trees. | 00:03:55 | |
| I know it would take a little effort. | 00:03:59 | |
| But I would love to sit down with someone to show you how you can come to town. | 00:04:02 | |
| On another St. other than Osborne. | 00:04:07 | |
| Today I was actually out there. Chris and I were out. | 00:04:11 | |
| On the street getting ready for the festival this weekend. | 00:04:15 | |
| Huge delivery truck. | 00:04:19 | |
| In the middle of the road. | 00:04:22 | |
| Part there we could not even leave until he was through delivering. | 00:04:24 | |
| He was parked in front of all the businesses on Saint Mary St. | 00:04:29 | |
| We have a boat ramp area. | 00:04:34 | |
| Where a truck? | 00:04:36 | |
| And hand truck it in. They're already hand trucking it in anyhow. | 00:04:38 | |
| But I think some attention. | 00:04:42 | |
| The more terrorists we have. | 00:04:44 | |
| The less safe it is. | 00:04:46 | |
| Because. | 00:04:49 | |
| The cars are having to go around these trucks that park in the middle of. | 00:04:50 | |
| Right there, that one Main Street that we have all the brick pavers. | 00:04:54 | |
| I encourage you to. | 00:04:59 | |
| Look at the truck. | 00:05:01 | |
| I might have had another. | 00:05:05 | |
| I'll save it for next. | 00:05:10 | |
| Thank you. | 00:05:13 | |
| I've gotten in enough trouble as it is. | 00:05:16 | |
| Larry White, 102 Sylv. | 00:05:33 | |
| Saint Marys. | 00:05:35 | |
| My wife and I went to the Senior Center today. | 00:05:38 | |
| There's going to be a speaker about. | 00:05:40 | |
| Providing non-emergency transportation. | 00:05:43 | |
| To the seniors. | 00:05:45 | |
| And that's what I was looking at because I'm getting to the age where. | 00:05:47 | |
| Eventually I won't be able to drive anymore. Neither will my wife. | 00:05:50 | |
| So I need to find out about transportation. | 00:05:54 | |
| Speaker is supposed to be there at 10:30. | 00:05:57 | |
| All right. We've got there about 10:15. | 00:06:00 | |
| We sat up in front and we waited, and we waited. | 00:06:03 | |
| They'll find about 20 past. | 00:06:07 | |
| 20 minutes to 11. | 00:06:10 | |
| I finally went. | 00:06:12 | |
| Thought that the Senior Center manager and asked her. | 00:06:13 | |
| What happened to the speaker? | 00:06:17 | |
| She said well. | 00:06:19 | |
| They're late. I don't know if they're coming. | 00:06:20 | |
| And they've been trying to get ahold of him this morning. | 00:06:23 | |
| And they couldn't get a hold of him. | 00:06:26 | |
| I think to myself, well, if I was going to have the speaker come in. | 00:06:28 | |
| Gentleman the day before. | 00:06:31 | |
| So eventually my wife and I finally left. | 00:06:33 | |
| There was no speaker. | 00:06:36 | |
| While I was waiting for the speaker to show up. | 00:06:40 | |
| I walked around the Senior Center. | 00:06:42 | |
| In the back. | 00:06:45 | |
| When we 1st and I will admit I haven't been to the Senior Center for a long time. | 00:06:47 | |
| When I first went there. | 00:06:52 | |
| Several months ago. | 00:06:54 | |
| Those rooms had chairs, tables. | 00:06:57 | |
| There's a game room. There's a puzzle room. | 00:07:00 | |
| He had a room when he still had the pool table and the ping pong table. | 00:07:03 | |
| And the basketball shooting thing. | 00:07:06 | |
| When I went back there today. | 00:07:08 | |
| Half the rooms were empty. | 00:07:11 | |
| No tables, no chairs. | 00:07:13 | |
| So in my mind. | 00:07:15 | |
| Why did the city go ahead? | 00:07:18 | |
| And with the help of somebody else. | 00:07:20 | |
| Don't you say that going? | 00:07:23 | |
| And open that Senior Center. | 00:07:24 | |
| If they're not going to use. | 00:07:26 | |
| All available space. | 00:07:27 | |
| In the Senior Center. | 00:07:29 | |
| My mind that is a waste. | 00:07:31 | |
| Of building space. | 00:07:33 | |
| Right now from what I could tell. | 00:07:35 | |
| Not only are they feeding the people. | 00:07:38 | |
| In the main room. | 00:07:40 | |
| But they also have all the games. | 00:07:41 | |
| The conductor in the main room. | 00:07:43 | |
| And used about everything else they do. | 00:07:45 | |
| Plus putting puzzles together. | 00:07:47 | |
| Is that main room? | 00:07:49 | |
| That's not right. | 00:07:51 | |
| I thought we, I thought the city purchased that building. | 00:07:53 | |
| With the intent at the Senior Center. | 00:07:56 | |
| They have individual rooms. | 00:07:58 | |
| Or individual activities. | 00:08:00 | |
| Not have everything in one room. | 00:08:02 | |
| Now I know why that's happening. | 00:08:04 | |
| Because too many of the seniors complain about that. | 00:08:06 | |
| You want to play. | 00:08:09 | |
| And eat in the same area. | 00:08:10 | |
| That's not sanitary. | 00:08:13 | |
| You don't want people eating on the same tables. | 00:08:15 | |
| That you're going to have people playing games. | 00:08:18 | |
| Especially in this climate. | 00:08:20 | |
| We've got the flu coming up. | 00:08:22 | |
| Cords were becoming. | 00:08:24 | |
| And luckily my wife and I got to. | 00:08:27 | |
| The COVID shot for the seniors. | 00:08:29 | |
| There's not too many places in Saint Mary's that are available. | 00:08:31 | |
| And right now the only one I know of. | 00:08:34 | |
| Is at the. | 00:08:36 | |
| Walgreens. | 00:08:38 | |
| In Kingsland, so if anybody's listening, that are seniors. | 00:08:39 | |
| That's where you need to go to get your. | 00:08:43 | |
| Plus you have to have a prescription. | 00:08:45 | |
| We doctor to get it. | 00:08:47 | |
| That's changed too. | 00:08:48 | |
| Texas federal government. | 00:08:50 | |
| Stuck their nose in it. | 00:08:52 | |
| Used to be you could get it and not have to have a prescription. | 00:08:55 | |
| But now you do. | 00:08:58 | |
| Also notice why we went to the Senior Center. | 00:09:00 | |
| Because I don't go upstairs very well. | 00:09:03 | |
| We came up the ramp into the Senior Center. | 00:09:05 | |
| Right at the base of that ramp. | 00:09:08 | |
| If we have a downspouts coming down. | 00:09:10 | |
| From the building. | 00:09:12 | |
| So if it's rain in any heart, type R. | 00:09:14 | |
| All that water is going to come down right on that. | 00:09:17 | |
| Entrance to the ramp for people go up. | 00:09:19 | |
| And that's where when the bus stops. | 00:09:21 | |
| To let the seniors. | 00:09:23 | |
| That's where they all come up as in that ramp. | 00:09:25 | |
| Now you're just waiting. | 00:09:27 | |
| Or slip and fall. | 00:09:29 | |
| That happened at that right into that ramp. | 00:09:31 | |
| And I know that said he's gone through one. | 00:09:33 | |
| One lawsuit about Trip. | 00:09:35 | |
| At the old Senior Center at Davis St. | 00:09:39 | |
| And luckily it was dismissed. | 00:09:41 | |
| But this time I may not be dismissed. | 00:09:44 | |
| If one of the senior strips and falls. | 00:09:46 | |
| Because you've got water gushing out of that. | 00:09:48 | |
| Downspout. | 00:09:51 | |
| Something's gonna happen. | 00:09:52 | |
| Now I thought that the director about that and she said. | 00:09:54 | |
| She's tried. She's already told the city about it. | 00:09:56 | |
| Phobic works. | 00:09:59 | |
| And nothing's been done about it. | 00:10:00 | |
| We're coming up on some heavy rain this weekend and Monday and Tuesday. | 00:10:02 | |
| So be careful. | 00:10:07 | |
| All right, you may put. | 00:10:08 | |
| Rush on that order. | 00:10:12 | |
| Different item. I'm sorry, Charlie. | 00:10:18 | |
| Golf carts. | 00:10:22 | |
| I'll bring this up again. | 00:10:25 | |
| There is more to Saint Mary's than downtown Saint Mary's. | 00:10:27 | |
| Midtown Saint Mary's. | 00:10:31 | |
| Everybody that lives north. | 00:10:32 | |
| Of 40 and. | 00:10:34 | |
| West. | 00:10:37 | |
| Can I get downtown? | 00:10:39 | |
| With the golf cart. | 00:10:40 | |
| There's no possible way unless they want to break the law. | 00:10:42 | |
| And I've seen too many people do that. | 00:10:45 | |
| I've seen so many golf carts. | 00:10:46 | |
| On a sidewalk. | 00:10:48 | |
| On 4040. | 00:10:49 | |
| If you have stayed cheap if you stationed a cop there. | 00:10:51 | |
| You're going to see him. | 00:10:54 | |
| All the time. | 00:10:55 | |
| They just ride up and down and walk. | 00:10:56 | |
| Sidewalk and I'm not supposed to do that. | 00:10:59 | |
| Now I would like to see the city work on a plan. | 00:11:01 | |
| With the state so that. | 00:11:03 | |
| Those of us that live. | 00:11:05 | |
| Outside downtown. | 00:11:07 | |
| And come downtown with a golf cart. | 00:11:08 | |
| And I'm sure I used up my 5 minutes. | 00:11:11 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 00:11:13 | |
| Thank you. | 00:11:14 | |
| I agree. | 00:11:16 | |
| Mercedes 816 Riverview. | 00:11:31 | |
| I didn't come to this meet man. | 00:11:35 | |
| You know, I didn't know about this meeting. | 00:11:37 | |
| So I'm catching up with some of the stuff. | 00:11:38 | |
| In support of. | 00:11:43 | |
| Yes, I've seen it, Santa. | 00:11:45 | |
| You know, there are other rooms that I mean. | 00:11:48 | |
| Take you know, we do the Zumba I get there and I do for. | 00:11:51 | |
| Chair Zumba. | 00:11:56 | |
| I can't stand up and do it. | 00:11:57 | |
| But so we do. We do have that. | 00:11:59 | |
| And we do have the meditation. | 00:12:02 | |
| Different things I don't understand. | 00:12:04 | |
| Mr. White, maybe? | 00:12:06 | |
| Doesn't go to those things, but I do, so I know the other rooms are being occupied. | 00:12:07 | |
| Right. And it depends of. | 00:12:12 | |
| Of you know what? | 00:12:14 | |
| But what you doing? | 00:12:16 | |
| So. | 00:12:18 | |
| And. | 00:12:19 | |
| I missed the. | 00:12:22 | |
| The boy because. | 00:12:23 | |
| Which was last Friday. | 00:12:25 | |
| I was ready. | 00:12:27 | |
| For that too. | 00:12:28 | |
| But my daughter. | 00:12:30 | |
| Superseded. | 00:12:32 | |
| Given him the wifey. | 00:12:34 | |
| A surprise gift? | 00:12:36 | |
| On a cruise and they left on Friday. | 00:12:38 | |
| So I'd hang a suit up. | 00:12:40 | |
| I'm going to close. | 00:12:44 | |
| You know, because even though it's all was going on, so. | 00:12:45 | |
| I I would like to maybe. | 00:12:51 | |
| Said I don't have that door but didn't have much to see but. | 00:12:55 | |
| It would be nice. Umm. | 00:12:57 | |
| In reference to what's going on with the. | 00:12:59 | |
| The planning for the Gilman area. | 00:13:02 | |
| And the other one. | 00:13:05 | |
| Down we street I was called the German Boathouse. I forget what they call it now. | 00:13:07 | |
| It'd be nice to find out what's going on with these things in those areas, you know what I mean? Because. | 00:13:13 | |
| Especially a Gilman please man, I'm a little upset with. | 00:13:19 | |
| Jacobian. | 00:13:23 | |
| And he don't want to give it up. | 00:13:24 | |
| You know, I mean so it can move on. | 00:13:26 | |
| But I think. | 00:13:29 | |
| I don't know what could be done. I know this is in court and this so. | 00:13:30 | |
| So as far as the. | 00:13:34 | |
| Coming on inlet property. | 00:13:36 | |
| The old paper mill site. | 00:13:38 | |
| The next I guess date. | 00:13:41 | |
| Is October 15th. | 00:13:43 | |
| Is when the bankruptcy court? | 00:13:45 | |
| Is supposed to decide. | 00:13:47 | |
| Between the plan offered by Mr. Jacoby. | 00:13:49 | |
| Or the plan. | 00:13:53 | |
| Offered by the Joint Development Authority. | 00:13:54 | |
| And I don't know all the specifics so I don't want to speak out of turn, but I know basically. | 00:13:58 | |
| The Joint Development Authority is asking for the bankruptcy to be dismissed. | 00:14:03 | |
| Which basically the. | 00:14:07 | |
| Property would come back to the Joint Development authority for it. | 00:14:08 | |
| To be able to. | 00:14:11 | |
| Remarket. | 00:14:12 | |
| And. | 00:14:14 | |
| Best I understand. | 00:14:15 | |
| Mr. Jacobi's plan basically is. | 00:14:17 | |
| Requesting 90 additional days. | 00:14:19 | |
| Where he's still trying to work with a. | 00:14:24 | |
| Find another investor Find an investor to. | 00:14:26 | |
| To pay for it so. | 00:14:29 | |
| Whatever those exact plans are right so. | 00:14:30 | |
| You know, I'm not sure that that could be. | 00:14:33 | |
| Found I'm sure but. | 00:14:36 | |
| October 15th is the date when that. | 00:14:37 | |
| The judge is supposed to make his decision. | 00:14:40 | |
| And we'll know kind of what the next step is. | 00:14:43 | |
| At that point, so. | 00:14:45 | |
| That's what we're waiting on there. | 00:14:46 | |
| What am I doing there? | 00:14:48 | |
| I believe Monday or actually should see digging by Tuesday. | 00:14:51 | |
| For the archaeological 2 phase. | 00:14:56 | |
| Phase two study is. | 00:14:58 | |
| They're scheduled to be here on Monday, and digging is supposed to commence by Tuesday. | 00:15:00 | |
| For that archaeological study, that has to be completed before. | 00:15:06 | |
| They can get permission to move on. | 00:15:10 | |
| And that's supposed to start Monday or Tuesday. | 00:15:12 | |
| Thank you. | 00:15:15 | |
| Well, how's everybody doing tonight? | 00:15:29 | |
| I'm Mark Founce and I live at 310 W Bryan Street. | 00:15:31 | |
| Just got a couple of things I wanted to. | 00:15:35 | |
| To ask about. | 00:15:37 | |
| Exit 1. | 00:15:39 | |
| If anybody's gone down through. | 00:15:41 | |
| The road there you can see they've got. | 00:15:44 | |
| Quite a bit of. | 00:15:46 | |
| Construction stuff going on, they're making it looks like they're making pretty good headway. | 00:15:49 | |
| I'd really like to see. | 00:15:54 | |
| Or have a. | 00:15:56 | |
| I guess an in depth. | 00:15:59 | |
| Presentation about. | 00:16:03 | |
| How Exit 1 is coming as far as its timetable, as far as its budget. | 00:16:05 | |
| I know that I don't know this, but my understanding is that as exit 1. | 00:16:12 | |
| Perceives that somehow or another, the. | 00:16:19 | |
| The property taxes or what have you. | 00:16:22 | |
| Increase and that's what's going to be used to pay the bond off. | 00:16:24 | |
| Really like for someone to speak very specifically about that process. | 00:16:28 | |
| Do they write? | 00:16:35 | |
| Do they write a check to the city or to the JDA or whoever has that bond? | 00:16:36 | |
| To pay for it and do somebody else write a check to the bondholder? I don't I don't understand how the money moves around. | 00:16:41 | |
| And I'd like to understand that just to make sure that. | 00:16:48 | |
| It looks like it's on time. We may be in in better shape with the bond than anybody knows. | 00:16:52 | |
| But certainly that's something I think all the citizens are very interested in is just. | 00:16:58 | |
| Exactly where are we with that bond as far as paying it off and the. | 00:17:03 | |
| The dollars that are that are necessary to work with that. | 00:17:07 | |
| The other thing that I wanted to talk about two other things. | 00:17:12 | |
| Jamie and I talked about a little bit earlier. | 00:17:15 | |
| With the amount of. | 00:17:19 | |
| This brunette maps aren't up here anymore. With the amount of development going on in Saint Mary's, there's probably what. | 00:17:21 | |
| 4 or 5000 living units. | 00:17:27 | |
| Projected to be built in Saint Mary's in the next five years. | 00:17:29 | |
| I haven't seen any type of a. | 00:17:34 | |
| Strategic plan. | 00:17:37 | |
| About Building Schools. | 00:17:39 | |
| They spoke a little bit about about the the sewer situation. | 00:17:42 | |
| I'm going to be kind of selfish here. | 00:17:48 | |
| Hope you all excuse me but. | 00:17:51 | |
| Quite frankly, all the people that are living up on Exit 1. | 00:17:53 | |
| I can see my tax dollars need to go there to pay for a school. | 00:17:58 | |
| Or pay for their sewers. | 00:18:02 | |
| I'm not getting any benefit out of that whatsoever. | 00:18:03 | |
| I think you can address it by making some type of a sliding scale or some type of. | 00:18:08 | |
| Of a method based on the population of the number of living units. | 00:18:13 | |
| For the developer to put down a bond on some of those things. | 00:18:18 | |
| You know you're gonna have to have it. | 00:18:21 | |
| And you better plan for it now because when it comes, you're going to be like, just like. | 00:18:23 | |
| The county was. | 00:18:29 | |
| You know, they want to hit everybody with a huge tax thing because they want to build a. | 00:18:30 | |
| What a $30 million jail all at one time. | 00:18:34 | |
| That's been coming around for years and years and years. That's not new. | 00:18:38 | |
| But they just put it down the road and didn't think about it. | 00:18:42 | |
| We need to think about those kinds of things. We need to think about them as they're building. | 00:18:45 | |
| And as I say, the people who are actually in those areas. | 00:18:49 | |
| They're the ones who need to be paying for because it benefits them directly. | 00:18:52 | |
| And that can be through impact fees, that can be through bonding, that can be for I don't know how you could do it. | 00:18:57 | |
| But I think that's something that needs to be considered with the city. | 00:19:02 | |
| And not just say we're going to increase taxes on everybody. | 00:19:06 | |
| It's not fair. | 00:19:09 | |
| I don't like it. | 00:19:10 | |
| I did want to touch on JDA. Burke did a little bit on it. | 00:19:13 | |
| I'd really like to see a presentation on from JDA on two different subjects, one of them. | 00:19:19 | |
| Is is detailing that Cumberland Inlet status? | 00:19:24 | |
| Four years ago, when they started the Cumberland Inlet? I asked. | 00:19:28 | |
| Mr. Coughlin, point blank. | 00:19:32 | |
| Will the city, will the citizens of Saint Mary's, ever be liable for that bond in any way, shape or form? | 00:19:34 | |
| And he told me no. | 00:19:40 | |
| Well, he didn't think that. | 00:19:42 | |
| Jacoby was going to have the problems that he had. | 00:19:44 | |
| And, and I'm, I'm pretty sure that he's planning on like you said, picking up the the property and doing a resale on it. | 00:19:47 | |
| That should worry people. If Jacoby, he's the brownfield builder. | 00:19:55 | |
| He's probably the best person in the country who would know how to do something with that, with that. | 00:20:00 | |
| That property. | 00:20:04 | |
| And even he couldn't get the funding to make it work right. | 00:20:06 | |
| So if the ADA takes the property back. | 00:20:10 | |
| When they still be looking at a property that nobody wants. | 00:20:13 | |
| Unsellable. | 00:20:16 | |
| But the bond was already out there. | 00:20:18 | |
| So how's it going to get paid? | 00:20:20 | |
| You know, you you can't, you can't, you can't sell junk. | 00:20:23 | |
| That's just the way it is and that may be a situation we're in, so I'd really like for. | 00:20:26 | |
| The JDA to make a presentation and tell us. | 00:20:30 | |
| Exactly where they stand. They can probably do it after the 15th. | 00:20:33 | |
| There's really no use doing anything prior to that. | 00:20:37 | |
| And the other thing I'd like to see the JDA do is a full financial disclosure. | 00:20:40 | |
| Of where they take our money and where they spend it to. | 00:20:45 | |
| I know they they. | 00:20:48 | |
| A little presentation. | 00:20:50 | |
| I want to see the financial statements. | 00:20:52 | |
| I want to know what my return on investments are. | 00:20:53 | |
| JEA to me is just like Debind stock. | 00:20:56 | |
| When I buy stock. | 00:21:00 | |
| I'll look at the financial statements on them. I want to know what I'm getting. | 00:21:01 | |
| And when I buy it, I get an annual report. | 00:21:05 | |
| I don't want to know what my return on investment is. I want to know that. | 00:21:08 | |
| The revenues, I want to know the expenses. | 00:21:11 | |
| And I want to know the same thing with JDA because they take in millions of dollars. | 00:21:14 | |
| And I want to be sure they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. | 00:21:18 | |
| Because at this point. | 00:21:21 | |
| Quite frankly, I don't see them. | 00:21:23 | |
| Really making a lot of headway. | 00:21:25 | |
| I'm not I'm. | 00:21:27 | |
| I'm not happy with it. | 00:21:29 | |
| But I don't know if I'm. | 00:21:31 | |
| Expecting more than I should be. | 00:21:32 | |
| But I think JDA, they should be doing this on an annual basis. | 00:21:34 | |
| For Saint Mary's. | 00:21:38 | |
| And for the for the county. | 00:21:40 | |
| Everybody needs to understand where JDA is. | 00:21:42 | |
| And if they're not meeting the if they're not meeting expectations. | 00:21:45 | |
| Somebody needs to call it out on it. | 00:21:48 | |
| There's too much money involved in it. | 00:21:51 | |
| Thank you. | 00:21:53 | |
| OK, Councillor. | 00:21:56 | |
| I'll respond to some. | 00:22:04 | |
| Sir. | 00:22:06 | |
| That's a bit quick. | 00:22:12 | |
| When we talking about tact. | 00:22:15 | |
| 816 remember you drive it. | 00:22:17 | |
| OK, umm. | 00:22:19 | |
| Only talking about taxes and. | 00:22:21 | |
| You know, slide. | 00:22:24 | |
| And that don't work. | 00:22:26 | |
| You know I mean. | 00:22:28 | |
| And know what what he said. | 00:22:29 | |
| You know. | 00:22:32 | |
| Some of us. | 00:22:35 | |
| Wasn't able to. | 00:22:37 | |
| Produced in terms of. | 00:22:39 | |
| Putting money into a system because we were poor. | 00:22:42 | |
| You understand? | 00:22:46 | |
| And uh. | 00:22:48 | |
| So hopefully. | 00:22:49 | |
| The bulk of the other the folks who could afford. | 00:22:51 | |
| And hope that somewhere down the road. | 00:22:55 | |
| And when we were able to carry it forever, carried on down the road. | 00:22:58 | |
| That the we will. | 00:23:02 | |
| Fall in line and pee. | 00:23:04 | |
| Some monies or. | 00:23:06 | |
| Taxes and not complain too much. | 00:23:09 | |
| You know what I mean? | 00:23:12 | |
| Because. | 00:23:13 | |
| I can't answer for everybody as I can answer myself. | 00:23:15 | |
| I know what it was when you don't have a damn scent. | 00:23:18 | |
| And you were poor. | 00:23:21 | |
| You know what I mean? | 00:23:23 | |
| People carrying that load. | 00:23:24 | |
| You know so. | 00:23:26 | |
| In Saint Mary's year with a. | 00:23:27 | |
| Kind of situation where? | 00:23:29 | |
| Not everybody got a load. | 00:23:31 | |
| However, I don't think they could do a slide. | 00:23:33 | |
| When you're taxing, you're taxing. | 00:23:36 | |
| Everybody gotta be. | 00:23:38 | |
| You know what I mean? | 00:23:40 | |
| When you come to that. | 00:23:41 | |
| I think the. | 00:23:44 | |
| Some folks don't think. | 00:23:46 | |
| But I went through that and I think it's fair because I know I am able to do it. | 00:23:48 | |
| And I pee my Fisher. | 00:23:52 | |
| That's all I want. | 00:23:56 | |
| Thank you. | 00:23:57 | |
| If you'll indulge me, I'm going to be like the Senate, playing my time back. | 00:24:06 | |
| Real quick. | 00:24:10 | |
| Catch somebody? Could y'all make a presentation at one of the City Council meetings about the situation with the new City Hall? | 00:24:11 | |
| Telling us exactly where we stand on it. | 00:24:19 | |
| You know, it looks like it's what, a year behind moving in time? | 00:24:22 | |
| And let everybody know. | 00:24:25 | |
| What the problems are, what the costs are? | 00:24:27 | |
| You know exactly what your time frame is. | 00:24:30 | |
| On getting things moving into that building and out of this building as far as the saving, what have you with that? | 00:24:33 | |
| Seems to be something that's just kind of up in the air. | 00:24:38 | |
| Thank you. | 00:24:41 | |
| Just to say that you know, we for several months ago we had some. | 00:24:42 | |
| Initial bid. | 00:24:46 | |
| Presented and. | 00:24:47 | |
| Castle thought it was too much and we went back to the drawing table to try to reduce some of the. | 00:24:49 | |
| Expenses associated inside the building, a new plan has been. | 00:24:54 | |
| Put together and is. | 00:24:59 | |
| He's being finalized with some of the final. | 00:25:00 | |
| You know, engineering parts of the drawing so that it can go out forbid but. | 00:25:03 | |
| The plan has been revised. | 00:25:08 | |
| And should be going out forbid again. | 00:25:10 | |
| Hopefully within the next couple of weeks we'll get it back out, forbid and then. | 00:25:13 | |
| Then we'll have to wait. | 00:25:17 | |
| What, 45 days or 3045 days? | 00:25:18 | |
| At least. But ma'am, probably. Yeah. So. | 00:25:21 | |
| So hopefully before the end of the year we'll have a. | 00:25:26 | |
| New price. | 00:25:29 | |
| For what we're looking at to. | 00:25:31 | |
| Possibly try to? | 00:25:33 | |
| Move forward. | 00:25:34 | |
| Excuse me? | 00:25:36 | |
| What needs to be done? | 00:25:37 | |
| In, what do you mean? | 00:25:39 | |
| What are you getting on? | 00:25:40 | |
| So I mean, if you go inside there, now there's really. | 00:25:42 | |
| No walls or anything, Offices in the inside. | 00:25:45 | |
| Other than. | 00:25:49 | |
| The conference space, you know that that's there, I mean. | 00:25:50 | |
| You know they had a existing. | 00:25:53 | |
| Area that. | 00:25:57 | |
| Was kind of a. | 00:25:58 | |
| Concave area or convex? | 00:25:59 | |
| And and yeah, opposite that, that's kind of been torn down, but. | 00:26:03 | |
| You know so. | 00:26:07 | |
| Actually construct the walls and you know, build the council chambers to. | 00:26:08 | |
| Build the offices. | 00:26:12 | |
| The building is pretty much a Walmart, you know, I mean, it's just pretty much just open, open space. | 00:26:14 | |
| And so to create all of those you know. | 00:26:20 | |
| Interior walls. | 00:26:23 | |
| Additional bathroom facilities and some of that kind of stuff that. | 00:26:25 | |
| You know all has to be done. Air conditioning. | 00:26:29 | |
| You know. | 00:26:33 | |
| Electrical, you know, all of that that you know would have to come with that. | 00:26:35 | |
| In that construction, so. | 00:26:39 | |
| All right. Is anyone else? | 00:26:44 | |
| All right. Thank you. We'll close this quarterly townhome. | 00:26:47 | |
| Can I can I share something real quick? | 00:26:50 | |
| I guess this Saturday. | 00:26:53 | |
| As the Seafood festival for Saint Mary. | 00:26:55 | |
| And there's one great thing I can tell you. | 00:26:59 | |
| We have. | 00:27:04 | |
| Rock Trump. | 00:27:05 | |
| And uh. | 00:27:08 | |
| And so we're looking forward to serving the meals on Saturday. | 00:27:09 | |
| And, and I'm excited to do that. | 00:27:14 | |
| So, so I just hear that with everybody. | 00:27:17 | |
| Thank you. | 00:27:19 | |
| The band will be there. | 00:27:20 | |
| High school The high school band is not planned there in a competition. | 00:27:22 | |
| And the. | 00:27:29 | |
| And base was they were in a. | 00:27:31 | |
| Try and say the word to use. | 00:27:39 | |
| I like them, but they're in. | 00:27:43 | |
| Turn that mode right now and so. | 00:27:46 | |
| We have the JRTC from the base. | 00:27:50 | |
| From the school system coming to be the honor guard. | 00:27:52 | |
| OK. | 00:27:56 |